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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If your goal with AX.25 on Linux is specifically IP over AX.25, the range of options &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;has narrowed&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If your goal with AX.25 on Linux is specifically IP over AX.25, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the removal of AX.25 from the Linux kernel has narrowed &lt;/ins&gt;the range of options.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260421021824.1293976-1-kuba@kernel.org/ upstream discussion] explicitly points out that IP over AX.25 can, in principle, be handled from user space, as via TUN/TAP integration, rather than by requiring the historic kernel implementation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260421021824.1293976-1-kuba@kernel.org/ upstream discussion] explicitly points out that IP over AX.25 can, in principle, be handled from user space, as via TUN/TAP integration, rather than by requiring the historic kernel implementation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260421021824.1293976-1-kuba@kernel.org/ upstream discussion] explicitly points out that IP over AX.25 can, in principle, be handled from user space, as via TUN/TAP integration, rather than by requiring the historic kernel implementation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The [https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260421021824.1293976-1-kuba@kernel.org/ upstream discussion] explicitly points out that IP over AX.25 can, in principle, be handled from user space, as via TUN/TAP integration, rather than by requiring the historic kernel implementation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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If your goal is specifically IP over AX.25, the range of options has narrowed.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260421021824.1293976-1-kuba@kernel.org/ upstream discussion] explicitly points out that IP over AX.25 can, in principle, be handled from user space, as via TUN/TAP integration, rather than by requiring the historic kernel implementation.&lt;br /&gt;
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That does not mean there is one complete drop-in replacement ready for every old Linux AX.25 workflow today. It does suggest a long-term architectural direction:&lt;br /&gt;
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* AX.25 framing and control in user space&lt;br /&gt;
* Integration with IP through TUN/TAP or similar interfaces&lt;br /&gt;
* Narrower, more maintainable components rather than a large in-kernel subsystem&lt;br /&gt;
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For now, end users may need to stay on an older kernel until a user-space solution emerges. Interested developers might look into this as an area for contributions to new or existing projects.&lt;br /&gt;
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One current project that might be relevant for IP over amateur radio projects is [https://github.com/markqvist/tncattach tncattach], a separate user-space tool that creates a Linux network interface from a KISS-compatible TNC without relying on the old kernel AX.25 stack.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not a user-space replacement for the old Linux AX.25 stack, and it should not be understood as preserving the historic Linux AX.25 interface model. It is aimed instead at IP or Ethernet-style networking over a TNC. If your main use of &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;kissattach&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; was simply to turn a KISS TNC into a Linux network device for IP networking, then &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;tncattach&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; may be worth a look.&lt;br /&gt;
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It may also be a useful reference point for future development. Even if it does not solve every AX.25-specific use case by itself, it shows one way to bridge a KISS-compatible TNC to a Linux network device without the old kernel stack, and that approach could potentially be extended further or incorporated into other projects.&lt;br /&gt;
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